GaRRy

Been doing a bit of catching up and read through this Thread. My observation as this all needs to start at the top with the more experienced sailors. As the ones lower down watch them sail and think if they can do it why shouldn't I. Nobody's perfect and we all make mistakes and may not even always realise but after watching quite a few races over the last 8 years I am pretty certain with a few exceptions I have observed most "Top" sailors commit fouls and because they have not been called by an observer they have just carried on apparently on the principal that if not seen it does not count. Not saying it the happens all the time but it does and some do it far more than others. To be honest I am a little bit fed up with the holier than you attitude of some top/experienced sailors. As for ducking and then protesting a port boat all I ever see in response is no you didn't and I'm not going to do a turn. As I see it if someone says they had to duck you and protests you should do the turn (Otherwise you are basically accusing them of lying). If it goes to protest (never seems to happen as after race finished people can't be bothered / don't want to hold up racing) then its pretty much one person word against anothers and so goes unpunished. We ALL need to take a good look at our own sailing before we start blaming others.

John Icarex PC20 is not as far as I am aware used for Spinnakers. Its main use is for high end stunt/trick kites,parakites and parasails. It does not stretch anywhere as much as Nylon ripstop. Having said that I would not want to use for anything but top suite and it doos need to be handled with some care. I think the bigger issue here is that I believe the rules say both sails need to made out of the same material ?

That is for third party liability. ie to cover you for claims made by someone's against you not to insure your boat against loss. So basically same as MYA insurance.

To big for one of those and cable is most likely to make sure it does not end up overboard

DF95 is never going to compete with an IOM in any wind conditions (well maybe a storm as it can keep going on d rig when IOM C rig is still to big). It was never meant to just like an IOM can't compete with a Marblehead. We have raced a fleet of DF95's in the lightest of breezes with out any issue. and I can't see the benefit of another rig for how little use it would get (probably less than the D which I have used 3-4 times in over 2 years).

Shall be interesting to see how easy it is to implement in practise

Not really as the score would go down dependant on number of races so with a fleet of say 60 with average of 40th would give a score of 40,30,20,15,12,10 etc as the number of race increased\ Johns method would give 40/60*20 = 13.3 Current method of average of all other races would give 40 (which is worse than a DNF of 21 for seeding race) Another example with a fleet of 60 and average of 20th would give a score of 20,10,6.7,5,4 etc as number of race increase Johns method gives 20/60*20 = 6.7 Current method for average of all other races would give 20 (ie last place) Need a bit more analysis but Johns method seems basically sound and looks about right.

You do have to wonder if sailing has got itself into a minute detail of over complicated rules. The current FISLY ISRR rules (or in English the land yachting equivalent to water based sailing rules ) which were historically based on the water based rules consist of 28 pages (excluding class specific appendices) https://www.fisly.org/include/index.php?id=211

Damian. Any pictures of the build process and printed components. It does look more and more likely that 3D printed boats and components will be a standard build method at some time in the not to distant future. I know a lot of the current ones are printed in small sections and fitted together but with printers already around that can print full size boats its only a matter of time. https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/watch-the-worlds-biggest-3d-printer-make-a-25-foot-boat Garry

Well if some one would care to send be some free boats and rigs I am more than happy to see how many i can get in my Grand Picasso

Most important thing before you buy a boat is what do the locals sail. No point in buying most A if every one else has boat B, the best part of radio sailing is racing others and to do that you need the same type of boat. So first thing to do is talk to the locals and see what they sail.

As I understand it you should only call a contact you are 100% certain happened (ie you see happen). Other indicators like spinning buoys or loud bangs while they may confirm what you saw are on there own not enough to call a contact.

Try here http://www.sailsetc2.com/store/index.php/products-by-category/boat-parts-materials/hull-parts.html Graham Bantock who runs Sailsetc designed the Fractal so I am sure they will have the lid you need.

Terry take a look at case B2 in IRSA case book https://www.radiosailing.org/documents/file/257-irsa-radio-sailing-call-book?tmpl=component

Richard i will look into this in the morning you should be able to post more than one picture (think limit is around 3 per post) Garry

Nicolas to attach pictures your post just click on the attachments tab below where you type (in the full editor not the quick reply). Should be fairly obvious from there on.

Derek May try and drop in for a day to see what its all about but other than that unfortunately I have to work and SWMBO would not be impressed if i used up whats left of my holiday to go sailing boats for a week. I will definitely be at Manor Park as I am helping out both days. See you their.

I have acquired a old ? Vane A boat called Mandy sail number K1120 I think she has just been used as as display in some ones house for last few years so not sure if she is complete but appears to be. Does any one know anything about her and more importantly would any one be interested in partnering up with me to get her back sailing and maybe try a few events if she can be made class legal (I have no idea how to free sail so would definitely be crew) Garry

John as I already said this was not mean as a criticism of any individual or meant as a comment on your actions. Just a general comment that it is far easier to sit back and take swipes than to actively take part in making changes. I applaud anyone who has had the nerve to be on the council of any voluntary organisation whether their plans and ideas came to be enacted or not. I know from experience that it is a thankless task and that you can never please everyone and also sometimes you might as well bang your head against a brick wall.

John before I start this is not aimed at you or any one specifically but is meant as a general comment. This topic was started by a member of council so at a guess at least one of them is prepared to listen. No wonder no one wants to be on council when all they get is moans and complaints (far easier than actually trying to do something). I have seen this over the years in all sorts of organisations I have been a member of and do wonder sometimes how some of them ever keep going. Simple answer is if you think things can be run better then take an active role (But don't be surprised if you are then the target of complaints instead) otherwise let those who are willing do what they feel is right to the best of their ability (After all they are all volunteers). So please all put forward constructive suggestions and ways things can be change but have the grace to accept that council can not do everything and may not always agree with your ideas.

its all there on MYA web pages (knowledge base- club and skipper development - For The Newcomer ) or to be quicker http://mya-uk.co.uk/knowledge_base_category/for-the-newcomer/ maybe it should be in the new to the sport section as well

To me that means no one wants the other classes (would be a shame but that's how survival of the fittest works). If each class ran itself then it would be up to that class to maintain / grow its popularity. I guess the only issue would be if one of the bigger classes started using its clout to supress a smaller class that is starting to compete and grow ?.

Take a look here http://sixmetresailing.weebly.com/history.html

Interesting couple of videos here on how to straighten wire. Not sure if any good for such thin wire and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4oUU2uMD4Y

Or buy in UK http://www.wheelspinmodels.co.uk/i/252356/?gclid=CjwKEAiAo7C2BRDgqODGq5r38DsSJAAv7dTPomCrqhrmI23IcFLYeuXneHFqI4DafNa9qjxY5sKYexoCdY7w_wcB