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  1. Upon having a go at a sailing rules Quiz game.finckh.net/index.htm It states that it is only required to do a turn including a tack and a gybe and not a full 360 deg, which could result in just a 270 deg turn and leaving the turn in a different direction tack/gybe to the entry direction /tack/gybe. Can this be clarified?
  2. The probem is that people are expecting the Right of Way boat to quote the exact rule number and quote the rule word by word before they accept they are the give way boat. In IOM racing the boats are so quick that they can appear in the field of view only a few seconds before a collision and incidents evolve out of nothing very quickly. Especially boats closing from different dirrections. There is often only a chance to say a word or two especially as the give way boat's sail number has to be quoted. There needs to be meaningful one or two word hail for each rule. For instance where a starboard tack boat was on a collision course with a port tack boat a hail of Starboard used to be accepted but is laughed at now. Any comments ideas?
  3. I have heard this rule mentioned at two clubs on in Europe and one in the UK. It is used by observers to stop boats sailing parallel to the line anywhere in the pre start area. I stopped real racing sailing more than 10 years ago so am catching up and this was the first 'rule' that I was amazed at. Me on starboard and all the other starters on port. Another guest did the same as me and was flagged up for the same infringement. However there was a heated argument and since then all the boats now start on starboard. I think it is like the Gimme rule in golf. Almost all amateur golfers use the gimme rule in normal stroke play when in fact gimmes are not allowed in stroke play. A made up rule caused by missunderstanding the rules which is so widespread that people beleive it to be true. Even a UK area sailing judge mentioned this ficticious sailing down the line rule to me. Which is worrying. It would be helpful if all the world sailing rules guys could point out to everyone that this rule does not exist and must not be used. I don't want to hear it again. Let's just stick to the real rules guys.
  4. I can't find any mention of a Sailing Down The Line rule in the sailing rules. This has been used by observers when I was on starboard and all the other boats were starting on port and I was not sailing down the line but behind it by a couple of boat lengths. The line as I understand it is across the course side front edge of the start buoys and is infinately thin. This "rule" seems to be used ad-hoc any time a boat sails parallel to the line within the pre start area even if the boat is many boat lengths inside the line and there are no boats around. As far as I can see it is a fictitious made up rule. Can anyone explain this?
  5. Thanks for the reply, John. In the case of temporary zero or limited control would the rules mean that other boats would have to give room and time for the boat to keep clear? In which case they would have to take into account the slowness and delay of the boat due to limited control. And if so could one shout "I have limited control please give me time and room to keep clear" ?
  6. One example of being out of control Say a boat is going downwind on the run and a sudden gust blows it out of control with the nose under water and rudder in the air. If the following boat is unable to avoid it due to the sudden nature of the incident does either have to do penalty turns? Other examples of being out of control are light winds where boats have no steerage and when in irons head to wind and unable to manouvre. What are the rules here guys?
  7. Does the same apply to this situation? Two boats one line astern of the other by two boat lengths on port tack close hauled. The boat ahead tacks away onto starboard but the following boat luffs up. Had the following boat held it's course there would have been no problem. Who is wrong here?
  8. Buoys are free to move and can bob or spin just due to sudden wind gusts and wakes. So would it not be better to ignore buoy movement and concentrate on visually checking if the boat actually touches the mark? From my recollection. It is a known effect that if a human continues to look at a stationary object it will appear to move after a short while and if you look at a moving object say a boat then you look at a stationary buoy the buoy will appear to move. The only time I think contact should be called is if you actually see contact then you can not make false calls. Inferring seems to be open to personal bias which is bound to be very strong when the observer is a competitor. I think you should be looking at the boat and the buoy not just the buoy. Having a buoy with stripes just seems to me encouragement to make inferrences rather than actual facts. Anyone else agree?
  9. Can boats be protested for touching a mark because someone thought they saw a buoy move when a boat was within a few feet of the far racing mark? The wake of a boat could cause a buoy to bob or spin while being several feet away.
  10. So in a club where competitors take turns to do (OD) duties on each different heat. They can start the heat and act as observers but not make decisions. Also they should be called R0 not OD. Just to clarify?
  11. What can the OD do and not do regarding contact with buoys and other incidents? What are their duties. Also if they are competitors they have a conflict of interests. Is this covered. What if they are biased and report contact that does not actually take place.
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